Cinder Copper & Lace

4.3
66 reviews
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$30 and under
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Rittenhouse cider/sour bar and artisanal pizza kitchen features ciders and wild ales on the 32 taps and 70+ bottles.

Pizzas, mussels, salads and small plates in the open kitchen focusing on local ingredients. Creative and classical toppings that are prepared in a custom-built wood-fired pizza oven. Beer is poured from our full custom design system housed in copper pipes.
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Casual Dining
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American, Brewery
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Hours of operation
Daily 12:00 pm–2:00 am
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(267) 761-5582
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AMEX, MasterCard, Visa
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Casual Dress
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2.0Dined on June 3, 2018

Cocktail was a miss, food was bland. A couple of issues with service (big gap in bringing entrees, second server bringing a second plate of an entree we had ordered and eaten), but otherwise not as bad as the food and drinks. Will not be returning.

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1.0Dined on May 28, 2018

I hardly ever leave reviews. I had some friends in town and I saw a Zagat article about Cinder so I was excited to try it for brunch. The food was awful! Really one of the worst meals I have had in a long, long time. The service was good but the food was just terrible.

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4.0Dined on May 21, 2018

Good overall. Slow service for 2nd half of meal but kitchen sent over a cheese board in apology. Excellent beer selection.

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3.0Dined on May 20, 2018

I was offered a seat at the front of the room but there was a large, noisy party, so opted for a table in the back. Turned out it was the WAY back - any further and I would have been in the bathrooms. (It *was* quiet, though, except for the occasional whoosh of the rest room hand dryers. It was also almost impossible to read the menu, as it was VERY dark.) Since it was brunch, I ordered a mimosa and the Cinder omelet, with pancetta, pork belly, cherry tomatoes, and scallions. The mimosa was very good - made with fresh juice and well balanced. Except for the very quick appearance of my food, everything was downhill after that: the omelet was covered with an unexpected, semi-congealed cheese sauce; the pork belly was overcooked , dry, and chewy; the side potatoes were simultaneously deeply browned and barely cooked, with little flavor; and everything was only lukewarm. When I mentioned the temperature issue to my server, she immediately offered to send the plate back, but I had no faith that there would be a change on the second try, so I declined. I almost wonder if the omelet had been made in advance (which would be weird!); that would certainly explain the temperature issue, although nothing could explain the cheese sauce. Service was very good - in addition to the offer to fix the temperature of my food, Katie was friendly, attentive without hovering, and aware of the proper pace for a meal. Bravo for that!

One reason I stopped in was to check the place out before a planned dinner with friends in a couple of weeks. Based on this meal, we may re-think it, but I know that brunch and dinner are two different things. Also, it's clear Cinder prides itself on its beers (in fact, when you click on "menus" here on Open Table, the only one available is the extensive beer list) and I'm not a beer drinker, so perhaps it was just an unfortunate choice because of that. Recap: probably fine for beer, iffy for brunch.

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4.0Dined on May 19, 2018

We had time to order and enjoy two flights of artisanal beers: 8 sours and 4 saisons. The variety of flavors was remarkable, particularly the rose sour! Food is snack-y. We enjoyed fried smoked mozzarella with a tangy pancetta “marmalade” and we snarfed down the luscious arancini in a flash. They tasted like more! The sound level is deafening, though either we got used to it or drank enough of the great beers not to notice after a while. I’d go back for sure... it was a great pre-concert meal, light and time-manageable.

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4.0Dined on May 19, 2018

We had an overall good time at Cinder. One of the people in our party is vegetarian, and the menu was diverse enough to accommodate everyone happily. Some constructive criticism for the bar would be to support local philadelphia and PA breweries by featuring them on tap. The cider and beer menu had a lot of items to offer, but I do not remember any of them being a local product. There are many great Philadelphian brewers to feature on tap, take advantage and support local!

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1.0Dined on May 6, 2018

Something happened with the kitchen staff from what the server told us. But only half of the order was served to the table. And the food that was served wasn’t good. The drink service was also slow.

The table next to us had the same issues.

Embarrassing to bring friends and have a horrible experience.

Oh yeah, the fire alarm was going off half of our visit.

They made us pay for the cold food and drinks.

It’s to bad because we’ve been a couple times but we will never return.

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4.0Dined on April 29, 2018

Nothing fancy, but the food was well prepared and tasty. Loud crowd watching sports programing, who were having a good time dominated the restaurant. Not my kind of place
but would work for the younger crowd.

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4.0Dined on April 28, 2018

Took my parents before going to the theater, Saturday night at 6 pm. Wasn't crowded yet, but filled up by the time we were leaving around 7:45. (Google suggested it was most busy between 5-6 pm, but that was not case.)

Had the Phillies game on for Dad and Radiohead on for me. Beer, cider, and wine lists were great. I'd go back for that alone. Had Heady Topper and Crusher. The service was a bit slow (it wasn't busy) but food came out quick once we ordered. Pizzas were all delish, mussels were delish, wings were well-reviewed by Uncle Greg.

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5.0Dined on April 28, 2018

I found Cinder on Open Table and it was delicious! My daughter and I were going to see a 2:00 play and went for brunch. Really interesting brunch menu so we had trouble choosing. We decided on 2 entrees and shared them! Also great drinks! Try the bloody mary with garlic infused vodka! Can't wait to go back and try other entrees!

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4.0Dined on April 7, 2018

As I was preparing this review I got a nasty gram from Open Table that I had blown off my reservation so obviously everything that follows is in my imagination (including my credit card bill?????) since the restaurant thought I had not shown up. That's a shame since we had a great meal, Kiera was a great server and the tap list was awesome. They even got us in and out to make a show around the corner. So other than their reservation system (or its input "device") it was a great experience. The high point other than the myriad of taps (both beer and cider) were the excellent jams served with the charcuterie and our dessert cake.

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4.0Dined on April 6, 2018

Great cider, pizza and service. So loud I couldn’t hear my the person across the table from me.

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3.0Dined on March 18, 2018

The food is great and there is an excellent selection of ciders - try the "full flight".

The service, however was awful. The server brought all the plates at the same time, and was never seen again. No water refills, not one drop by to check on us. I had to walk to the bar where she was hanging out to ask for a check. Then I had to walk back to the bar again several minutes later to pay for the check. Ridiculous....

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4.0Dined on March 16, 2018

Took the in-laws before the ballet at AOM. During happy hour, so noise level was expected. Pizza was great. Will dine here again.

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5.0Dined on March 8, 2018

Great experience

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3.0Dined on March 3, 2018

Great server Kyra!
Great cider flight, well-priced.
Nice cocktails.
Pizza good, not great.
Terrible fish and chips. The batter was great, the fish so tough it was very bad.
Nice steak.
Loud bar.

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5.0Dined on March 2, 2018

We had some time before a show and stopped in for a quick bite. The French Brute Cider, the Cider Fries, and Roasted Brussels were all fantastic! Best food we’ve had out in a long time.

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4.0Dined on February 11, 2018

very happy with the Denver Pizza, Chicken & Waffles, and Cinder specials.

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3.0Dined on January 26, 2018

I was very disappointed with the service at Cinder. We went to this restaurant for my best friends birthday and the experience we had was extremely disappointing. Not one of our courses came out at the same time so we were all eating at different times. The server was also very rude. And I called ahead of time to tell them to put a candle on her dessert and they did not do that either. Very disappointing.

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4.0Dined on January 26, 2018

Stopped in for Restaurant Week and were not disappointed. The menu had four courses and they were all regular full size portions of items on their usual dinner menu. We tried to hush puppies, brussel sprouts (AMAZING), cheese, mussels (HUGE portion), scallops, pizza, and desserts. Will definitely be back for those brussels and make sure to pass along the good word.

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3.0Dined on January 24, 2018

My sister and I went for restaurant week and most of the dishes we ordered were VERY salty. The taste was fine, unfortunately the salt was over-powering. We both needed to chug a lot of water later that night!

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5.0Dined on January 24, 2018

Delicious Food. Nice presentation. Great choices for beer and wine. Came for restaurant week. Great find!

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3.0Dined on January 17, 2018

We went for restaurant week and the food was good but service was rushed. Plates were coming out really fast. Otherwise nice place for a casual meal

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5.0Dined on January 17, 2018

Food was meh- but drinks were good and we had a good time

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3.0Dined on January 16, 2018

Although I went there for restaurant week, which is my own mistake, it left a lot to be desired. First course was good, fries and brussels. Charcuterie, I would pass on, cheese was good. Pizzas were bland. We got the sausage, truffle mushroom, and brussel/potato. Sauce on the sausage tasted like it was straight from a can, truffle was barely there and tasted like an alfredo sauce pizza with lackluster mushrooms, brussel and potato was fine but let's be serious bacon makes anything good. Desserts, at least on the restaurant week menu, were probably the worst part. All in all, it was fine, but didn't make me want to go running back.

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4.0Dined on January 15, 2018

Service was great and so was food!

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4.0Dined on January 15, 2018

Cool atmosphere, went with girlfriends and plates were good to share! Prices were reasonable. It was tasty and a bit salty. Music didn't match the place.

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3.0Dined on January 14, 2018

We went for restaurant week and it was better than I expected for a bar. The drinks, food and service were all great. The portions were more than enough for the cost and there was lots of variety. It was a very good night.

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4.0Dined on January 13, 2018

Brunch was very good. Seating was a bit uncomfortable. Not cramped but small

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3.0Dined on January 5, 2018

Good beer and drink selection. Smaller food selection. Pizzas looked good

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5.0Dined on December 29, 2017

We went for dinner before a friends surprise party and the waitress was very polite and understanding of the situation. The mussels were phenomenal and the cider and beer list were also very good. I will be returning to cider very soon!

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4.0Dined on December 20, 2017

Pizzas are amazing, service is good. Biggest complaint is that it seems to be getting louder every time we get there.

*i love the drink selection there but my partner, who is a bit more traditional, sometimes scoffs at the beer/cider list. That being said he always ends up loving everything he tries.

Flights are a great choice!

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4.0Dined on December 10, 2017

Went here for brunch and it was great! Awesome beers and food. definitely worth trying!

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4.0Dined on December 8, 2017

Place was totally empty at noon on a Friday in December. 5 of us dined. Food came out very staggered, which was not pleasant. Some waited way too long to receive their meal. Food was good when it finally came out. Love sours, so I’m happy this place exists.

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4.0Dined on December 3, 2017

The atmosphere is great! Beautiful wooden tables, steal beams, interesting lighting, open kitchen, mosaic bar! Very clean but exciting look. The food was also delicious. Went for brunch and got the waffle. It was crispy and absolutely delicious. Fiance got the breakfast pizza - ratio of toppings was great and I loved the pizza sauce. Their beer and cider list is unique in offering local and hard to find beers and cider. My only complaint would be the timing and pacing of food. My entree came out a solid 5 minutes before my fiances - I didn't want to be done before him, but I also didnt want mine to get cold. Likewise, I noticed the people next to us also got their food at all different times and seemed to also grapple with the dilemma. Overall though, I would definitely recommend and will absolutely be going back to try the rest of the menu!

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2.0Dined on December 2, 2017

Cinder has an amazing beer selection, but the prices are outrageous! $ 8-24 for a beer is just nuts. And the food was bland, pizza was expensive and had almost no flavor. But the worst part was the noise level, I walked out with a headache. I definitely won’t be coming here again.

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3.0Dined on November 18, 2017

Flights of beer and cider were great. Wide variety and a decent price. Device was a little distracted even though the place was not full at 7pm on a Saturday night. Pizza was warm, not bubbly hot, when it was placed on the table. Crust was thinking but chewy, not crisp, as one might expect for a thinner crust-style.

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5.0Dined on November 12, 2017

Cinder's brunch was amazing! The food was so good. I highly recommend the Cinder omelette, Margarita pizza and pepper vodka Bloody Mary. The atmosphere is very laid back and nice and the service was great. You cannot go wrong with Cinder.

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4.0Dined on November 10, 2017

Was a little disappointed that they were out of the pizza I wanted but overall had good service. Hostess was very friendly.

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3.0Dined on October 26, 2017

The gastropub didn’t meet expectations based on other reviews. The atmosphere was so so. The mussels in cider were good, but not great, although definitely better than the mussels with chorizo. The margherita pizza was ok, but needed a bit more seasoning and should have been baked a little longer. Overall, not the great Pizza and tapas we were expected. Service was ok, not extremely professional.

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