Ocean and Vine at Loews Santa Monica Beach Hotel
Ocean and Vine at Loews Santa Monica Beach Hotel

Ocean and Vine at Loews Santa Monica Beach Hotel

  • Dining Style: Casual Elegant
  • Website: http://www.loewshotels.com/en/restaurants/ocean-vine/overview
  • Phone: 3105763180x
  • Hours of Operation:
    Breakfast, Daily, 6:30am- 11:30am

    Lunch, Daily, 11:30am-2:00pm

    Dinner, Tuesday - Saturday, 6:00pm- 10:00pm

    Sunday Brunch, 11:00am-2:00pm
  • Payment Options: AMEX,JCB,MasterCard,Visa
  • Cuisine: American, Californian, Contemporary American
  • Dress Code: Casual Dress
  • Accepts Walk-Ins: Yes
  • Additional Details: Banquet/Private Rooms, Bar Dining, Bar/Lounge, Beer, Counter Seating, Farm to Table, Fireplace, Full Bar, Non-Smoking Restaurant, Patio/Outdoor Dining, Personal wines welcome, Personal wines welcome (corkage fee applies), Private Room, Smoking Area, Takeout, View, Weekend Brunch, Wine
  • Private Party Facilities: Breathtaking views and the award-winning cuisine combine to make Ocean & Vine the perfect spot for your next event. Whether you’re dining for business or pleasure, the staff at Ocean & Vine will ensure a perfect evening for you and your guests. Group menus are available for parties of 11 or more. Space is available for up to 120 guests. Custom menus can also be designed by the chef based on your preferences starting from $36 per person.
  • Private Party Contact: Catering Department 3104586700x2167
  • Special Events: Brunch is Back at the Beach!
    Take in the best view in Santa Monica while sipping champagne and enjoying both traditional and inventive brunch favorites at our new Sunday Brunch. 11am to 2pm, $49 per person

Getting there

  • Cross Street: Pico
  • Parking: Valet
  • Parking Details: Underground hotel parking, valet only. $6 for the first three hours with validation.
A word from Ocean and Vine at Loews Santa Monica Beach Hotel
Enjoy Santa Monica at its best at Ocean & Vine where breathtaking views of the Pacific Ocean and Santa Monica Pier are just the beginning. Our contemporary California coastal cuisine offers the freshest Farmers’ Market fruits and vegetables, artisan cheeses and locally-caught seafood. Offering every element of the perfect dining experience, regardless of time of day, lunch features seasonal salads, sandwiches, fish tacos and all the classic comforts. In the evening, dine fireside or out on the beautiful spacious patio while enjoying a glass of wine expertly paired with seasonal specialties, including Carpaccio of Vintage® Prime Beef, Maple Brined Prime Pork Chop, Tarragon Tiger Shrimp & Lobster Risotto or Pacific Steelhead Salmon. Or, join us for SUSHI AT SUNSET featuring a wide variety of creative sushi, nigiri, sashimi and house rolls that combine the flavors and textures of the freshest fish with innovative techniques and house-made sauces.
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Ocean and Vine at Loews Santa Monica Beach Hotel reviews from OpenTable diners
36 reviews since June 4, 2014
Overall Rating4.3
  • Food4.2
    Service4.3
  • Ambiance4.3
    Noise LevelQuiet
88% of reviewers would recommend this restaurant to a friend.
scenic view (28)great for outdoor dining (23)romantic (19)special occasion (15)great for brunch (15)fit for foodies (12)great for lunch (10)good for groups (6)neighborhood gem (6)hot spot (4)kid-friendly (4)late-night find (3)notable wine list (3)vibrant bar scene (1)Show More
  • Celebration
    Kawfamily
    Dined on 9/14/2014
    My husband & I booked a reservation for my mother-in-laws 85th birthday. We chose the restaurant based on the reviews and the proximity of picking up her two girlfriends, the restaurant was between both of their homes. Everything was just perfect. The view, food, and most of all the service. Barbara was our server and she was very tentative and patient as we had a party of seven and 4 were 85 + years old. I would highly recommend.
    Special Features:
    great for brunch, great for lunch, special occasion
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelQuiet
  • stefanisuzanneVIP
    Dined on 9/13/2014
    The restaurant was totally empty on a Saturday night-we left without ordering
    Special Features:
    scenic view
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelQuiet
  • Impressive
    OpenTable Diner Since 2009
    Dined on 8/31/2014
    I arranged to have a Sunday lunch here with visiting relatives. They were duly impressed with both the space and the view. The food was good (two ordered Cobb salads and one had the fish tacos) and the service was excellent. Also, I ordered a Bloody Mary while I waited for my guests and that was very good, too.
    Special Features:
    great for brunch, great for lunch, great for outdoor dining, neighborhood gem, scenic view, special occasion
    • Food
    • Ambiance
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    • Noise LevelQuiet
  • Surpassed expectations
    GeniusLily
    Dined on 8/29/2014
    We were able to make a reservation for 6 for a Friday evening on the same day and got a fantastic table, great service and were very impressed by the food quality and presentation. Started with oysters - very fresh and served with four condiments/sauces, next a summer salad (grilled peaches, strawberries, goat cheese, balsamic) which was perfect. Seafood trio, scallops, sea bass and grilled veggie with burrata rounded out the meal. All delicious! We were entertaining out of town guests, and the food, service, and view of the pier blew them away!
    Special Features:
    fit for foodies, romantic, scenic view, special occasion
    • Food
    • Ambiance
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    • Noise LevelQuiet
    I would recommend this to a friend.
  • Sunday Brunch!
    OpenTable Diner Since 2003VIP
    Dined on 8/24/2014
    Great Sunday brunch. The jalapeño bacon, the oatmeal and the blueberry malt waffles are fantastic! Sit outside overlooking the Pier and Ocean.
    Special Features:
    great for brunch
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelModerate
  • Ocean and Vine
    Paul
    Dined on 8/10/2014
    Wonderful experience! Awesome food! Perfect service! Beautiful view!
    Special Features:
    fit for foodies, great for outdoor dining, hot spot, neighborhood gem, notable wine list, romantic, scenic view, special occasion
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelQuiet
    I would recommend this to a friend.
  • Great view good food
    CRM1VIP
    Dined on 7/28/2014
    CAme for an early lunch - 11.30am so caught the tail end of the breakfast trade. Our waitress quickly brought water and menus but there was a short delay until the kitchen switched up to lunch. I had very juicy fish tacos served with little pots of guacamole, Mexican potted cheese and salsa. VEry delicious but messy. My friend was very happy with the cobb salad. A pleasant place to sit and chat.
    Special Features:
    great for brunch, great for outdoor dining, great for lunch, scenic view, neighborhood gem
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelModerate
    I would recommend this to a friend.
  • Breakfast ends at 11:30 on Sunday
    WaffleCity
    Dined on 7/27/2014
    I like Sunset & Vine restaurant at Loews Hotel a lot. Waffles are great. The waitress did an excellent job. (Note that the Sunday brunch buffet runs longer, but if you just want a light breakfast, get there before 11:30.)
    Special Features:
    great for brunch, scenic view
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelQuiet
  • Creative style
    Yasu360VIP
    Dined on 7/18/2014
    I went during LA dine wk. It's inside the hotel. Nice ocean view. Food is great and they add something unique/creative to traditional cuisine. Good taste.
    Special Features:
    fit for foodies, good for groups, great for brunch, great for lunch, great for outdoor dining, hot spot
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    • Noise LevelQuiet
  • Loved the food
    Kat0306
    Dined on 7/15/2014
    The food and beach view was a WIN! Service was a little slow, there was only one other table in the entire restuarant other then us so that's why I couldn't believe the service was slow. With that said the ambience and food made up for it.
    Special Features:
    great for brunch, kid-friendly, fit for foodies, great for outdoor dining
    • Food
    • Ambiance
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    • Noise LevelCannot Recall
  • Excellent
    frances
    Dined on 7/14/2014
    Great in every way! Staff very attentive. Food was great. View was great. I'll be back soon.
    Special Features:
    great for brunch, great for outdoor dining, scenic view
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelQuiet
    I would recommend this to a friend.
  • Excellent service and food
    oceanfoodieVIP
    Dined on 7/13/2014
    Our server, Barbara, was probably the best I ever had. She was so sweet and hospitable. The crab salad and fish tacos were excellent, as well.
    Special Features:
    great for brunch, romantic, scenic view, neighborhood gem
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelQuiet
    I would recommend this to a friend.
  • Great lunch
    CRM1VIP
    Dined on 7/10/2014
    A table with a view of Santa Monica pier and also in the shade. attentive waiters and a diverse menu. I had a delicious Cobb salad and my companion had a sHort rib pizza which she said was amazing. we looked at the dessert menu but the choices were a little heavy for lunch - something fruity would have been nice Instead of cheesecake and brownie concoctions. Would happily return for another meal here.
    Special Features:
    great for brunch, great for outdoor dining, great for lunch, scenic view
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelQuiet
  • Girlfriends Day Out
    JaneR
    Dined on 7/6/2014
    Every few months a group of us go out for lunch or brunch. This was our second time selecting this restaurant. Great atmosphere and good service. We plan to come back again.
    Special Features:
    great for brunch, kid-friendly, good for groups, great for outdoor dining, romantic, special occasion, great for lunch, scenic view
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelModerate
    I would recommend this to a friend.
  • Wonerful evening
    kathe90035VIP
    Dined on 7/1/2014
    The rack of lamb was so very good and so was the service
    Special Features:
    great for outdoor dining, romantic, special occasion, scenic view
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelQuiet
    I would recommend this to a friend.
  • Lovely for a date
    therones
    Dined on 6/28/2014
    My date and I decided last minute to grab a bite here and were very pleased with the romantic atmosphere. They gave us a table next to the fire pit. We each had a wonderful salad that included fruit and goat cheese and then split their short rib pizza which was very tasty. We moved out to the pool area which had a fabulous view of the Santa Monica pier and sat in lovely, cozy chairs.
    Special Features:
    romantic, late-night find, scenic view
    • Food
    • Ambiance
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    • Noise LevelModerate
  • great find
    OpenTable Diner Since 2007
    Dined on 6/27/2014
    We tried it with a Blackboard Eats coupon -- never heard of the place, but a good location before our concert. The location is obscure - not even a sign in front of the hotel. Lovely view from the outdoor tables, excellent food and service. They accommodated gluten free diners and a vegetarian with aplomb. Very impressed - we will return.
    Special Features:
    fit for foodies, great for outdoor dining, scenic view
    • Food
    • Ambiance
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    • Noise LevelQuiet
  • No table for us when we arrived
    Upset
    Dined on 6/23/2014
    I booked the reservation and when we arrived, the regretted to tell us the restaurant was closed on Monday. This was an important business meeting and I was quite embarrassed. They could not accommodate us at all. We ate in the bar, which was casual, noisy, and instead of a more sophist end environment, there were beach-goers with paraphernalia lying all around the tables or couches. The service was extremely slow. This is a lovely hotel, but I would not go again.
    Special Features:
    scenic view
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelModerate
  • Nice Surprise
    SurpriseVIP
    Dined on 6/10/2014
    We ate there once before as a large dinner party of 17 and were not impressed with the food though we had a very good time and were treated very nicely. My wife and I returned just the two of us at 8:30 on a Tuesday night for dinner. The place was almost empty. The wine prices are outrageous and uncalled for. However, the pepperoni/chorizo pizza was just fine and the big surprise was the fabulous cauliflower/cheese soup with a little toasted sheese sandwich and the seafood fava bean "chili". My wife did not enjoy her salmon and they took it off the bill which was very nice of them. I took my leftovers home and enjoyed it just the same the next night. Would definitely come back.
    Special Features:
    fit for foodies, romantic
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    • Noise LevelQuiet
  • Great food & ambience
    jb2000
    Dined on 6/10/2014
    I went here with a group of 4 people. We had a variety of different appetizers and main courses (salads, sushi, chicken, etc.) and everything was excellent. Really enjoyed the view.
    Special Features:
    great for outdoor dining, romantic, scenic view
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelModerate
  • Great food and service!
    jvh0804
    Dined on 6/7/2014
    I went to ocean & vine for dinner to celebrate my brothers bday. We ordered some apps (calamari, SM Chili, surf n turf roll) and each one was delicious. We then ordered some drinks and entrees (I got the beef tenderloin, it was superb!). We had some cocktails and they were also tasty! We finished off with dessert ( which was an assortment of mini desserts, all great) we sat on the patio although it was a little chilly the staff made all accommodations to keep us warm ( moved us, and offered blankets). Overall service was great they were very attentive and checked in on us as needed. I would definitely go back and recommend this place! Request Melissa! She's swesome!
    Special Features:
    fit for foodies, great for outdoor dining, romantic, special occasion, scenic view
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelModerate
    I would recommend this to a friend.
  • Shameful dinner / decent brunch
    GrazingFoodbizPro
    Dined on 6/7/2014
    My family and I were staying at the hotel and thus trapped to some degree. We thought we'd get ahead of the game by calling in advance to clear our Celiac daughter's dietary needs which aren't uncommon or severe (Gluten-free, period). Our server was nice but utterly clueless. She promised to check with the kitchen about specific items we could offer her. She never responded so we ordered carefully. No gluten issues but the food itself was beyond horrible. Crab cakes were horrific -- the cheapest shredded mulch, zero lump. Unseasoned. Both risotti were cooked to death and utterly flavorless. Unseasoned again. Steelhead unseasoned. Shrimp were so old and faded we spat them out. Too many other things to mention in so little space.
    • Food
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    • Noise LevelModerate
  • Great Service
    OpenTable Diner Since 2009
    Dined on 6/7/2014
    I've been here several times. You get the best ambience, classy & quiet and their service is the best. We took my mom for her 67th birthday for lunch on June 7 and had a great time.
    Special Features:
    great for brunch, good for groups, great for outdoor dining, romantic, special occasion, great for lunch, late-night find, scenic view, hot spot, vibrant bar scene
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelQuiet
  • Date night
    Mandi
    Dined on 6/6/2014
    This was my first time here for a massage and dinner and it was amazing. The people who worked there were very nice, and personal. I loved it and will be back
    Special Features:
    romantic, special occasion, scenic view
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelModerate
    I would recommend this to a friend.
  • Ratings-Only Reviews
    Based on 12 ratings-only reviews submitted since June 4, 2014
    • Overall Rating4.5
    • Food4.5
    • Ambiance4.6
    • Service4.4
    • Noise LevelQuiet
  • The following 391 reviews are from the Ocean and Vine at Loews Santa Monica Beach Hotel reviews archive.
  • Wonderful brunch
    thatguy
    Dined on 6/1/2014
    Our daughter and I took my wife to Ocean and Vine for a Sunday brunch on her birthday...we ordered off the menu (the brunch buffet didn't strike us as a good deal) and had terrific food with exceptional service. Prices weren't unreasonable. We look forward to going back, they took great care of us.
    Special Features:
    great for brunch, great for outdoor dining, scenic view
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelModerate
  • Sunday Brunch
    IowaGirl
    Dined on 6/1/2014
    Brunch was pricey. You need regular bacon and pork sausage. You also need regular Eggs Benedict in addition to the Crab Benedict. The short ribs had way too much sauce which ruined the flavor, Toaster was really slow ... eggs got cold waiting for toast to toast. Omelets, waffles and French Toast were great.
    Special Features:
    good for groups, great for outdoor dining, special occasion, great for lunch, scenic view
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelModerate
  • Memorial Day breakfast
    VeniceButterfly
    Dined on 5/26/2014
    Positives: Went here for a nice Memorial day breakfast and it was delicious. The eggs Benedict were amazing and the potatoes that come with it are delicious. The negatives: There was really loud construction going on down on the street below and could barely hear eachother talk. The waiter wasn't very knowledgeable, and they only had orange juice loaded with pulp which I hate. Overall very nice.
    Special Features:
    great for brunch, great for lunch
    • Food
    • Ambiance
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    • Noise LevelEnergetic
    I would recommend this to a friend.
  • Very poor service
    OpenTable Diner Since 2011
    Dined on 5/20/2014
    The restaurant wasn't busy, but it took a very long time for the waitress to take our order. And then when it came time to pay the check, our bill was sitting with our credit card on the table for 30 minutes without anybody picking it up. I had to go up to the front desk to give them our check and credit card, and then it still took 10 minutes after that for them to bring the credit card receipt to our table.
    Special Features:
    great for lunch
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    • Noise LevelQuiet
  • AmaryllisVIP
    Dined on 5/15/2014
    We had lunch on the patio and loved the beautful view we had of Santa Monica Beach and the Ocean. The service may not be all that speedy, but otherwise really great and friendly; and our server's recommendations were bang on. We were more than delighted with the Chicken Cobb Salad, and the Scallops With Spinach Salad that she steered us to. (On a prevous visit we had the Fish Tacos and the Santa Monica Chili -- brilliant as well.) When a Westside location works with our itinerary, this spot's a fave for us.
    Special Features:
    fit for foodies, great for outdoor dining, great for lunch, scenic view, neighborhood gem
    • Food
    • Ambiance
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    • Noise LevelModerate
    I would recommend this to a friend.
  • long wait in, long wait out.
    melimama
    Dined on 5/11/2014
    We had a reservation at 1:30 and were seated around 2:00. The Mother's Day buffett was very good. I enjoyed crab legs, shrimp, salmon, eggs benedict and the like, as did my family. The dessert section was a little lacking, I didn't mind, but my sons would have liked to see something more. This was our second time we had Mother's Day brunch there and probably the last. The first time we waited for over a half hour for our valet-parked car. This time we joked that we hoped it wasn't the same. Alas, it was worse. It turned out that a hotel employee parked his car in front of ours, blocking it in and the valet had to run in the hotel to find him and get him to move it. This took 40 minutes. Not a good way to cap off the event.
    Special Features:
    great for brunch, special occasion, great for lunch, scenic view
    • Food
    • Ambiance
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    • Noise LevelModerate
  • Greatness
    Lovefluffy
    Dined on 5/10/2014
    I took my mother to celebrate Mother's Day at this nice location with a great oceanview in Santa Monica . The food was amazing the pricing was affordable , we had the best service buy all the staff ... We defiantly will be coming back very soon
    Special Features:
    good for groups
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    • Noise LevelQuiet
    I would recommend this to a friend.
  • Neighborhood Gem!
    Marsee3VIP
    Dined on 4/27/2014
    We enjoyed our meal at Ocean and Vine. My husband ordered the macadamia butter and banana pancakes. Yummy! I ordered an omelette that I could select three ingredients for. The pancakes were fantastic ,but the omelette tasted too well done. Our server was the best ! He was both pleasant, and courteous and came frequently to pour coffee. We would return because of our excellent service.
    Special Features:
    Kid-Friendly, Scenic View
    • Food
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    • Noise LevelQuiet
  • Always excellent - Ocean & Vine
    OpenTable Diner Since 2009
    Dined on 4/23/2014
    Service was excellent. Great table on the patio, as requested. Fantastic view of the pier. Beautifully prepared and presented food. All was delicious...and excellent.
    Special Features:
    Fit For Foodies, Great for Outdoor Dining, Romantic, special occasion, Great for Lunch, Scenic View, Neighborhood Gem, Notable Wine List
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelModerate
  • Disappointed
    Ella
    Dined on 4/11/2014
    We really were excited to try this beautiful restaurant. Everyone at the table mentioned that our food was overly salty. The atmosphere was beautiful but the service was also slow. At times we didn't see our server for 20-30 minutes. We are not sure if the area tends to me more laid back because it seemed another restaurant we visited the next day took 20 minutes to place our order.
    Special Features:
    scenic view
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelQuiet
  • Rude Waiter but Good Food
    eh246
    Dined on 3/25/2014
    Having stayed at the hotel as a guest many times i booked a table at Ocean & Vine to show my partner one of my favourite spots to have dinner within view of the pier. Food was great, drinks also very nice. Unfortunately the waiter was condescending and rude. Very much an attitude of "you don't belong here" towards us which i find very offensive. Big song and dance made of ID'ing us for drinks, which is fine to do but a bit of professionalism is required. To put it in perspective we are in our late 20s, and as Brits this concept is bizarre to us to be carded at our age as it is without him making a show of us in front of the whole of the restaurant. No guidance on food choices either- ended up with WAY too much, Overall disappointing.
    • Food
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    • Noise LevelCannot Recall
  • Just okay.
    1foodie
    Dined on 3/22/2014
    Overall a mediocre dining experience. Good location and nice view. Everything else (food, service, ambiance) was just okay.
    Special Features:
    scenic view
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelModerate
  • Overall dining was good. Server
    reviewVIP
    Dined on 3/22/2014
    Overall dining was good. Server was friendly and helpful, Julio. We had the oyster appetizer. New it was going to be cooked but you had so much veggie on top of the oyster, you could not taste the oyster very well. Plus they give you condiments as if you were having just oysters. Pork chop was excellent according to my husband. The local sea bass was okay. Not much flavor and it was cooked a tad too much for my liking. Risotto not creamy. Had the banana split for dessert,was good. Berries were fresh. Here is the really disappointing part, you could not see the ocean except what was beyond a tower out the window. I guess you needed to eat on the patio to get the good view. That was one of the main reasons we picked this place.
    Special Features:
    great for outdoor dining
    • Food
    • Ambiance
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    • Noise LevelModerate
  • A Little Overwelmed
    TinaVIP
    Dined on 3/15/2014
    Hi We Recently Dined At Ocean and Vine Restaurant Last Saturday, The Restaurant Was Not Very Busy . For Some Reason Our Service Was Greatly Delayed In Service Of Both Drinks And Food We Have Been Going To Ocean And Vine For Sometime . I Believe Our Server Was Overwhelmed Since We Had To Wait A Long Time Between Each Course Including Drinks We May Not Go As Often As Before. Food Was Fine But Not As Great As It Was Before . Thank You
    Special Features:
    fit for foodies, good for groups, great for outdoor dining, great for brunch, romantic, late-night find, notable wine list, neighborhood gem, hot spot, special occasion, great for lunch
    • Food
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    • Noise LevelModerate
    I would recommend this to a friend.
  • Everything But the Service
    PebblesVVIP
    Dined on 3/8/2014
    Ocean & Vine has an ideal location overlooking Santa Monica Pier and the menu is good. It is great to go for the ambiance. This would be a 4 or 5 star review if their service was better. Servers are nice but incredibly slow, and with only 3 tables full on a Saturday night, it made no sense why (a) the hostess made us wait 10 minutes for our table despite the reservation on Open Table (even though 75% of the tables were available the moment we walked in on time) and (b) food took so long to arrive. If it was a busy night would excuse it, but it wasn't, and it makes me wonder if they make people wait just to appear trendy. Food is good, ambiance is excellent. If they only improved their service they would do better.
    Special Features:
    romantic, scenic view
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    • Noise LevelModerate
  • Lowes at the Beach
    IowaGirl
    Dined on 2/22/2014
    This was a very pleasant experience. We had out of town guests in and chose this as a central location to meet for lunch. The food and service was amazing. We booked the reservation on line and everything went off without a hitch. It is also great that the parking is a flat fee as it made it great for everyone.
    Special Features:
    fit for foodies, good for groups, great for outdoor dining, great for brunch, neighborhood gem, great for lunch
    • Food
    • Ambiance
    • Service
    • Noise LevelModerate
    I would recommend this to a friend.